Ep. 19 - Stepping in it

We all do it. We’ll all continue to do it. The thing about us white-bodied folks is that we often go so far out of our way to avoid it that we end up not doing the things that help us learn and grow.

The reality is that we can’t avoid it. What if, instead, we worked to develop the capacities necessary to ‘step in it’, and not break relationship? Not leave? Not disappear down a shame spiral? That’s what this episode is all about.

Believe us, we’re still working on it something fierce. Indeed, this conversation stems from a recent example of it. No, we can’t get specific (we know that’s a bit frustrating, but it’s part of how we protect everyone involved), but we can talk about what it looks like, and what we might do.

We’d love to hear what questions come up for you as you listen. What examples of ‘stepping in it’ do you have? What did you do? What do you wish you’d done?

Please let us know!

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Links for stuff mentioned on this episode:
The Color of Fear - A remarkable film by Lee Mun Wah.
Scene from The Color of Fear
White Fragility - an important book by Robin DiAngelo
Reverend angel Kyodo williams - Zen Buddhist and anti-racism educator, thought leader, and activist.

Seeing White - season two of the Scene on Radio podcast. A must listen for the history of white supremacy.

Disrupting Our Whiteness - 16-week program from Jennie Pearl and Dylan Wilder Quinn of Holistic Resistance. This program was a game-changer for us.

White Tears/Brown Scars: How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color

This episode was recorded on February 6th, 2023

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